Monday, October 31, 2016

Re: [MW:25638] Base metal qualification range of unlisted material as per AWS D1.1

Dear Shaik,

Please note that S355J2 or JR Materials are unassigned materials without P nos, so you have to qualify with the actual base material in this case.
However you can approach the clients by saying that the yield strength is same and the consumables used also will be same, in that case may be they will accept.

On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 2:50 PM, shaik amjad <amjadshaik7842@gmail.com> wrote:
If a wps is qualified in base metal S355J2 will it be qulified for S355JR Code AWS. I have WPS qualified with base metal S355J2  but now due to stock availability only S 355JR is available can i use same WPS for this one also . as only the grade is changing  

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Re: [MW:25637] Damaged RF

Confirmation for the flange face roughness (AARH) -usually reported in microns inch against the standard requirements (e.g ASME B16.5)shall be produced as an evident 

Regards 
Sam


On Monday, 31 October 2016, Vijay Joshi <hivijay1970@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear experts,
A  2" RF WN flange gasket (or raised surface) area got blasted by oversight and NCR was raised by our client. We have done milling -machining on the surface to restore the raised face and it looks OK and acceptable but the client is asking for machining report.
How is it done, I mean to confirm that the flange is acceptable?
Can we see a standard report of such machining.

Thankfully,
Vijay Joshi

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[MW:25636] Base metal qualification range of unlisted material as per AWS D1.1

If a wps is qualified in base metal S355J2 will it be qulified for S355JR Code AWS. I have WPS qualified with base metal S355J2  but now due to stock availability only S 355JR is available can i use same WPS for this one also . as only the grade is changing  

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[MW:25634] Damaged RF

Dear experts,
A  2" RF WN flange gasket (or raised surface) area got blasted by oversight and NCR was raised by our client. We have done milling -machining on the surface to restore the raised face and it looks OK and acceptable but the client is asking for machining report.
How is it done, I mean to confirm that the flange is acceptable?
Can we see a standard report of such machining.

Thankfully,
Vijay Joshi

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Re: [MW:25634] LTCS PQR

In case you use process with active gas of flux you have to perform a chemical analysis to determine the A no

2016-10-29 18:28 GMT+03:00 Patel Vivek <vivekpatel1303@gmail.com>:

Possible... But keep dash(-) in A number in both WPS & PQR......custom undiluted weld metal....but they have to comply your other mechanical requirements....


On 29-Oct-2016 8:02 AM, "mmm" <mustaqnk@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Experts,

Base material  : ASTM A333 GR.6 to A350 LF2 CL 1 or
 P.No 1 & Group No.1 to P.No. 1 & Group No.2
  Pipe 8'' Sch 20 & WN Flange 8'' Sch 20, Impact Test : - 46 ⁰C

Code-ASME B31.3
 
GTAW- ER80S-Ni1 and A#10

SMAW-E7018-1 and A# 1

1) is it possible that we can have different WELD CHEMISTRY A #1 and A#10 in the same PQR please clarify?


Regards
mmm

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Re: [MW:25633] Hardness for vessel after PWHT

Dear All,

Many thanks for your valuable feed backs. Also regret for the late response.

Regarding the above, there was a mis-understanding that is in fact HAZ
& base metal hardness was restricted to 225 HB while weld metal was at
236 HB. since one party raised this assuming 225 HB is applicable for
all. Anyhow, all are within limit and hence OK.

The testing was done with portable machine (MIC 10).

I have one more query, when & where Brinell & vickers applicable specifically.

Thanks in advance,
Kumar.

On 10/30/16, Perumal Govindan <perumalgovindan@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Kumar,
>
> Please provide your hardness test report for further review or find below
> snap shot for your reference.
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
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> [image: Inline image 2]
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> Regards
> Govindan
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> On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 11:15 PM, Kumar <sk7920541@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Dear experts,
>> In our project for pressure vessels, moc- SA 516 gr.70 N, shell thickness
>> 55mm (nace MR 0175). After doing PWHT, hardness measured and most of
>> readings found in limit.
>> According to procedure vessels having more than 50mm thick hardness value
>> shall not exceed more than 225 (brinell for p no. 1). But some values are
>> 228,230,18 etc.. could we get expert advise to adress this dis-parity pl.
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Kumar.
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Re: [MW:25632] WPS - In service welding

Dear Waqas

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله

Please advise us about the following
1. We are preparing a new WPS for in-service welding.
2. Our scope is mechanical sleeve type b pipeline repair.
3. The pipeline operation condition has several flow rates.

do we need to make individual WPS for each flow rate, or one WPS could be applicable for all the flow rates?

Thanks,,,

Ibrahim Ali Elfadol Mohammed
Construction Manager
EXICO Petroleum Services Co.
eng.iali17@gmail.com
+249126466109

On Monday, December 8, 2014 at 10:59:58 AM UTC+3, Faisal Shahzad Meer wrote:

Dear Waqas

 

Use the attached test assembly (Figure-B-2) given in appendice-B of API-1104.

Then attached the pump with known flow rate with its "fluid in" nozzle during welding to simulate real welding conditions.

Using water during PQR test will qualify all the flow rates and flow media because water produces severe thermal conditions.

 

 

 

Regards

 

Faisal Shahzad Meer

Project Quality Supervisor-Welding

J-505, Saudi Aramco Wasit Downstream Pipelines Project

 

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From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of waqas suleman
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 6:48 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MW:22478] WPS - In service welding

 

Dear Faisal,

 

Can you please advise me how to maintain water flow rate in test coupon during performing PQR.

What should be the arrangement in this regard.

 

Regards,

 

Waqas Suleman

 

 

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Faisal Shahzad Meer <fmeer@gccksa.com> wrote:

MR. ANAS

 

YES

IF YOU WILL GO THROUGH APPENDIX –B  IT CLEARLY GUIDES US THAT IN-SERVICE WELDING PROCEDURE WILL BE BASED ON THE API-1104 PLUS ALTERNATIVE/ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS GIVEN IN APPENDIX B.

 

Regards

 

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From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of anas k
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Subject: Re: [MW:22430] WPS - In service welding

 

Thanks Mr. Faisal and Mr.Joydev.

Is the sections 5/7 is applicable to in service welding ? How we can justify this?

 

Regards

Anas

 

 

 

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 7:52 AM, joydev dalai <joykolkata07@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear sir,

As per API 1104 the Dia range 

A change from one specified OD group to another. These groups are defined as follows:

1) specified OD less than 2.375 in. (60.3 mm),

2) specified OD from 2.375 in. (60.3 mm) through 12.750 in. (323.9 mm),

3) specified OD greater than 12.750 in. (323.9 mm).

As per API 1104 the thickness range 

A change from one specified wall thickness group to another. These groups are defined as follows:

1) specified pipe wall thickness less than 0.188 in. (4.8 mm),

2) specified pipe wall thickness from 0.188 in. (4.8 mm) through 0.750 in. (19.1 mm),

3) specified pipe wall thickness greater than 0.750 in. (19.1 mm).

 

On Nov 29, 2014 7:52 PM, "anas k" <anaskaranath@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Experts,

 

I am in a situation to establish WPS for in service piping as per 1104 Annex B. The WPS is for a split tee tie in joint (Encirclement Tee)

Split tee ASTM A 516 Grade B

Header pipe 24" sch 60 (API 5L Grade B)

 

How to select the thickness range ?

How to select dia range ?

What are the essential variables ?

 

Please guide me to make a preliminary WPS.

 

Thanks & Regards

Anas Karanath

 

 

 

 

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Re: [MW:25631] Re: Open Root Pipe Welding / Groove Welding with FCAW Process

FCAW not recommended as it is high heat input process . The toughness of the root is affected  . The most important is to control the heat input at root as it is the most important run in the weld . That why GTAW is mostly recommended and it's a clean process . STT Lincoln or RMD miller is ideal as the current characteristic is well controlled and therefore the heat input . So to be on safer avoid FCAW for X-ray quality weld .


On 30 Oct 2016 4:54 p.m., "'c sridhar' via Materials & Welding" <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:
1. It will be difficult  to get consistent root penetration for 8.00  mm thick  200 mm dai. 
    pipe using 1.20 mm wire in FCAW manual or auto process. It may work out for a higher thickness
    and larger size.
2. For 8 mm thick. 0.80 could be ideal and that size is not available in FCAW process.
3. Using GMAW (+) FCAW is gain not practical for 8 mm thick and also not economical.
4. GMAW process with Argon + CO2 as shielding gas may help with two pass technique.
    Again, LF may at times may affect X-ray quality 
5. Alternatively you can try Pulsed Auto TIG process with Argon gas. It may meet your requirement.

Sridhar. 
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From: Vishwas Keskar Welding Manager Pune India <vvkeskar123@gmail.com>

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Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2016 9:53 PM
Subject: [MW:25487] Re: Open Root Pipe Welding / Groove Welding with FCAW Process

STT process - LINCOLN will give excellent root pass quality including RT satisafctory

On Tuesday, October 4, 2016 at 2:06:35 PM UTC+5:30, Gopi Krishna Banerjee wrote:
Dear sir / experts, 
I need help for welding a M.S. Pipe  with Mechanized FCAW Process for root pass to get good penetration for X-ray ( without backing strip & back gouging ) Wire, E71T-1. Dia, 1.2 mm.  Shielding  Gas,  100 % CO2.  Pipe  Dia  200mm. Wall Thickness 08.00mm. Welding  Position 1GR.
Please give me some guidelines  for above welding operation . Like,  voltage, Amps, and wire speed, travel speed, stick out,  torch angle, gas flow rate for root run  & other subsequent  run.
Few Engineers say that FCAW  are  not be recommended for open root run. They advised for  root  run  weld with GMAW process & subsequent run  by FCAW process. And I found in  ESAB Welder Guide Book . Page No. 16.  they are also  not recommended  root run  by FCAW.  on Pipe  &  Plate both.
My queries are as follows :
1.     Is it possible to weld a root run for X quality penetration  with  FCAW Process?
2.    There is any restriction for root  run welding  with FCAW   by any Welding Codes  like ASME Sec. IX, AWS D1.1. or  ISO 15614. ?
Thanks & Regards.
G. K. Banerjee.
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NAGPUR. ( India )
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Sunday, October 30, 2016

Re: [MW:25630] Re: Open Root Pipe Welding / Groove Welding with FCAW Process

1. It will be difficult  to get consistent root penetration for 8.00  mm thick  200 mm dai. 
    pipe using 1.20 mm wire in FCAW manual or auto process. It may work out for a higher thickness
    and larger size.
2. For 8 mm thick. 0.80 could be ideal and that size is not available in FCAW process.
3. Using GMAW (+) FCAW is gain not practical for 8 mm thick and also not economical.
4. GMAW process with Argon + CO2 as shielding gas may help with two pass technique.
    Again, LF may at times may affect X-ray quality 
5. Alternatively you can try Pulsed Auto TIG process with Argon gas. It may meet your requirement.

Sridhar. 
09444971077



From: Vishwas Keskar Welding Manager Pune India <vvkeskar123@gmail.com>

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Subject: [MW:25487] Re: Open Root Pipe Welding / Groove Welding with FCAW Process

STT process - LINCOLN will give excellent root pass quality including RT satisafctory

On Tuesday, October 4, 2016 at 2:06:35 PM UTC+5:30, Gopi Krishna Banerjee wrote:
Dear sir / experts, 
I need help for welding a M.S. Pipe  with Mechanized FCAW Process for root pass to get good penetration for X-ray ( without backing strip & back gouging ) Wire, E71T-1. Dia, 1.2 mm.  Shielding  Gas,  100 % CO2.  Pipe  Dia  200mm. Wall Thickness 08.00mm. Welding  Position 1GR.
Please give me some guidelines  for above welding operation . Like,  voltage, Amps, and wire speed, travel speed, stick out,  torch angle, gas flow rate for root run  & other subsequent  run.
Few Engineers say that FCAW  are  not be recommended for open root run. They advised for  root  run  weld with GMAW process & subsequent run  by FCAW process. And I found in  ESAB Welder Guide Book . Page No. 16.  they are also  not recommended  root run  by FCAW.  on Pipe  &  Plate both.
My queries are as follows :
1.     Is it possible to weld a root run for X quality penetration  with  FCAW Process?
2.    There is any restriction for root  run welding  with FCAW   by any Welding Codes  like ASME Sec. IX, AWS D1.1. or  ISO 15614. ?
Thanks & Regards.
G. K. Banerjee.
Welder  Trainer.
NAGPUR. ( India )
M-09764555112. 09423632112.
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Re: [MW:25629] Hardness for vessel after PWHT

Dear Kumar,

Please provide your hardness test report for further review or find below snap shot for your reference.





Regards
Govindan


On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 11:15 PM, Kumar <sk7920541@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear experts,
In our project for pressure vessels, moc- SA 516 gr.70 N, shell thickness 55mm (nace MR 0175). After doing PWHT, hardness measured and most of readings found in limit.
According to procedure vessels having more than 50mm thick hardness value shall not exceed more than 225 (brinell for p no. 1). But some values are 228,230,18 etc.. could we get expert advise to adress this dis-parity pl.
Thanks in advance,
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Re: [MW:25628] Hardness for vessel after PWHT

Hi!
You can control Hardness  for higher thickness weld by increasing the preheat temperature to through thk  and also some time by increasing Soaking time  of PWHT (As NACE application PWHT is mandatory)
Regards
Hegde


On Sunday, 30 October 2016 9:22 AM, Perumal Govindan <perumalgovindan@gmail.com> wrote:


Hi
Please provide your hardness report for review to clarify.
Regards
Govindan
On 29 Oct 2016 05:32, "Kumar" <sk7920541@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear experts,
In our project for pressure vessels, moc- SA 516 gr.70 N, shell thickness 55mm (nace MR 0175). After doing PWHT, hardness measured and most of readings found in limit.
According to procedure vessels having more than 50mm thick hardness value shall not exceed more than 225 (brinell for p no. 1). But some values are 228,230,18 etc.. could we get expert advise to adress this dis-parity pl.
Thanks in advance,
Kumar.
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[MW:25624] Regarding E6013 and E7018

Dear sir,

As per API 650, above 12mm E7018 has to be use. Means up to 12mm E6013 has to use.
I have only query to ask that, why e6013 not allow to use above 12mm.


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Prasad

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Re: [MW:25624] LTCS PQR


What is not prohibited by the Code is permitted. in that case you will have two different deposited thickness also 


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Date: 28/10/2016 18:21 (GMT+02:00)
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Subject: [MW:25619] LTCS PQR

Dear Experts,

Base material  : ASTM A333 GR.6 to A350 LF2 CL 1 or
 P.No 1 & Group No.1 to P.No. 1 & Group No.2
  Pipe 8'' Sch 20 & WN Flange 8'' Sch 20, Impact Test : - 46 ⁰C

Code-ASME B31.3
 
GTAW- ER80S-Ni1 and A#10

SMAW-E7018-1 and A# 1

1) is it possible that we can have different WELD CHEMISTRY A #1 and A#10 in the same PQR please clarify?


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mmm

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Re: [MW:34832] Inquiry about Single Bevel with Back Grinding

Dear Uday, As per your question that one is called with backing only,Simple both side you are welding it is backing with strip or without st...